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	<description>30 years of history of Burning Man</description>
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		<title>By: Nutmeg</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-43112</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutmeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this film was great. I will probably go to the second screening here in Eugene, Oregon in order to get a better understanding of it. I felt like I missed a few details. I do believe it made me a little nervous though. I am naturally just worried that my friends, myself, and others take substances for granted and do it just to party instead of using them for the journey. This film I felt touched on that thought a lot. The man who made this, I&#039;m assuming, had lots of different footage and viewpoints to use. He could portray many ideas, but seemed to have shown this one idea a lot. I thought maybe he was saying it just to help us realize that we can take this party any where, and to any height, but we have come to a slight standstill. Say&#039;s the one woman in the film and one of the flaming lotus women. I am only a 2 year Burner, working on my 3rd, and have seen a little bit of this, but not much. I was thinking that maybe he showed it to us this way to grab the attention of those few stragglers out there that haven&#039;t quite figured it out yet. The one&#039;s doing shady things and getting high just for the party(greatest party on the planet that is) to help us tighten up our ship. Ship shape! But what&#039;s inside that possible stand still is amazing! The pure connection that I have experienced there, shows nothing of this worrisome thought. We are very much alive there. Connecting to other individuals. Loving. Gifting. It seems like the people that were there from the roots on have lost that connection, in my opinion from the footage I saw. But this isn&#039;t their party any more. It&#039;s ours. We can do anything that we wish with it. It&#039;s not them that tells someone to bring this art piece or that. It&#039;s us. We make it happen! We participate. Were the movers and the shakers. So I guess when it all comes down to it, I&#039;m a Burner for life! Nothing can mimic this spectacular place. We can only hope to take those experiences to the world and show them what is possible. If I could marry Burning Man, I would! I do have this one question: Is Larry and the other people interviewed, that seemed so uninthusiastic, still the main organizers? If so, I think their jobs should be passed onto others that do still have the flaming fire that is Burning Man deep down inside. Thank you so, so, much for sharing your art with us. I know that many thoughts were provoked with the showing of this film. 
)&#039;( We are everywhere )&#039;(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this film was great. I will probably go to the second screening here in Eugene, Oregon in order to get a better understanding of it. I felt like I missed a few details. I do believe it made me a little nervous though. I am naturally just worried that my friends, myself, and others take substances for granted and do it just to party instead of using them for the journey. This film I felt touched on that thought a lot. The man who made this, I&#8217;m assuming, had lots of different footage and viewpoints to use. He could portray many ideas, but seemed to have shown this one idea a lot. I thought maybe he was saying it just to help us realize that we can take this party any where, and to any height, but we have come to a slight standstill. Say&#8217;s the one woman in the film and one of the flaming lotus women. I am only a 2 year Burner, working on my 3rd, and have seen a little bit of this, but not much. I was thinking that maybe he showed it to us this way to grab the attention of those few stragglers out there that haven&#8217;t quite figured it out yet. The one&#8217;s doing shady things and getting high just for the party(greatest party on the planet that is) to help us tighten up our ship. Ship shape! But what&#8217;s inside that possible stand still is amazing! The pure connection that I have experienced there, shows nothing of this worrisome thought. We are very much alive there. Connecting to other individuals. Loving. Gifting. It seems like the people that were there from the roots on have lost that connection, in my opinion from the footage I saw. But this isn&#8217;t their party any more. It&#8217;s ours. We can do anything that we wish with it. It&#8217;s not them that tells someone to bring this art piece or that. It&#8217;s us. We make it happen! We participate. Were the movers and the shakers. So I guess when it all comes down to it, I&#8217;m a Burner for life! Nothing can mimic this spectacular place. We can only hope to take those experiences to the world and show them what is possible. If I could marry Burning Man, I would! I do have this one question: Is Larry and the other people interviewed, that seemed so uninthusiastic, still the main organizers? If so, I think their jobs should be passed onto others that do still have the flaming fire that is Burning Man deep down inside. Thank you so, so, much for sharing your art with us. I know that many thoughts were provoked with the showing of this film.<br />
)&#8217;( We are everywhere )&#8217;(</p>
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		<title>By: Cara Bradley</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-35200</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This documentary was a fascinating look into the history of Burning Man and provoked much thought about it what it was and what it has evolved into. There is excellent footage of the beginnings of this event.  Recommended viewing for anyone going to the festival or anyone curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This documentary was a fascinating look into the history of Burning Man and provoked much thought about it what it was and what it has evolved into. There is excellent footage of the beginnings of this event.  Recommended viewing for anyone going to the festival or anyone curious.</p>
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		<title>By: KiXi Dust</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-30278</link>
		<dc:creator>KiXi Dust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Oliver
I was looking forward to seeing this movie for months and missed it as I am in the process of moving to Brisbane! I would LOVE to organise a screening there we have been talking for a while for the Brisburners to meet up so this would be perfect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Oliver<br />
I was looking forward to seeing this movie for months and missed it as I am in the process of moving to Brisbane! I would LOVE to organise a screening there we have been talking for a while for the Brisburners to meet up so this would be perfect!</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-30179</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved it...loved the history, the footage and the intelligent, funny commentary/interviews...best film I&quot;ve seen for awhile...left on a high...not to mention the festival it&#039;s self as fantastic subject matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved it&#8230;loved the history, the footage and the intelligent, funny commentary/interviews&#8230;best film I&#8221;ve seen for awhile&#8230;left on a high&#8230;not to mention the festival it&#8217;s self as fantastic subject matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Joolz</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-30021</link>
		<dc:creator>Joolz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went along last night just out of interest - I&#039;ve never been to BM. It was a pretty interesting doco from my perspective. It seems quite balanced. Some great footage of the old burns and looks like he&#039;s done a great job with the research. I thought it was a really interesting look at the progressive development from a group of friends hanging out to a full-blown massive festival. Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went along last night just out of interest &#8211; I&#8217;ve never been to BM. It was a pretty interesting doco from my perspective. It seems quite balanced. Some great footage of the old burns and looks like he&#8217;s done a great job with the research. I thought it was a really interesting look at the progressive development from a group of friends hanging out to a full-blown massive festival. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Bwana</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-29604</link>
		<dc:creator>Bwana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went, reluctantly, to see this film.  Not reluctant about the film or the focus, but reluctant because of my general disillusion with the whole cult process of the festival.  The history has been re-written and sanitized so many times any film like this will have the neo-created memories of the individuals in charge rather than any true history.

I was more than pleasantly surprised.  Sure there are a few misstatements, and a whole lot of &quot;current-day-spin-speak&quot; from the self appointed gurus of the cult.  Everyone happily buys that the original man was NOT Larry&#039;s friends burning away his ex-in-effigy after she left him with his child (Can&#039;t lose half your audience and ticket sales and make it a sausage fest).  But the spin was minimal.

What was not minimal was the drawing and connection to such things as Desert Site Works, The Suicide Club, and a real opening up of the visions of so many artists, trustifarians, musician and pranksters that brought this festival to life. It is well worth a watch, no matter what your level of participation, or your diefied belief in the cult.

My first year was 1991.  I came to the event as a researcher from UC Davis on an anthropology project.  Been there, blew that up. Watched the festival grow, was an insider, watched the current board claim they invented everything since two hydrogens and an oxygen made water.  I can see why many in the org don&#039;t like it as it cuts into their omnipotence claims, but you don&#039;t have to see it that way.  Its just a good film, period.  I think this film is like democracy, it may not be perfect, but its the best thing on the BM Cult I&#039;ve seen so far.

Bwana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went, reluctantly, to see this film.  Not reluctant about the film or the focus, but reluctant because of my general disillusion with the whole cult process of the festival.  The history has been re-written and sanitized so many times any film like this will have the neo-created memories of the individuals in charge rather than any true history.</p>
<p>I was more than pleasantly surprised.  Sure there are a few misstatements, and a whole lot of &#8220;current-day-spin-speak&#8221; from the self appointed gurus of the cult.  Everyone happily buys that the original man was NOT Larry&#8217;s friends burning away his ex-in-effigy after she left him with his child (Can&#8217;t lose half your audience and ticket sales and make it a sausage fest).  But the spin was minimal.</p>
<p>What was not minimal was the drawing and connection to such things as Desert Site Works, The Suicide Club, and a real opening up of the visions of so many artists, trustifarians, musician and pranksters that brought this festival to life. It is well worth a watch, no matter what your level of participation, or your diefied belief in the cult.</p>
<p>My first year was 1991.  I came to the event as a researcher from UC Davis on an anthropology project.  Been there, blew that up. Watched the festival grow, was an insider, watched the current board claim they invented everything since two hydrogens and an oxygen made water.  I can see why many in the org don&#8217;t like it as it cuts into their omnipotence claims, but you don&#8217;t have to see it that way.  Its just a good film, period.  I think this film is like democracy, it may not be perfect, but its the best thing on the BM Cult I&#8217;ve seen so far.</p>
<p>Bwana</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Sundell</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-27759</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Sundell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had a wonderful screening here in Helsinki with a great turn out. What a wonderful film! Insightful for anybody like me who is interested in self-generated, communal and spontaneous art experiences. Insightful lessons on what works and what doesn&#039;t. Thanks so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a wonderful screening here in Helsinki with a great turn out. What a wonderful film! Insightful for anybody like me who is interested in self-generated, communal and spontaneous art experiences. Insightful lessons on what works and what doesn&#8217;t. Thanks so much!</p>
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		<title>By: aangel</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-3951</link>
		<dc:creator>aangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having heard various stories of the origin of BM it was good to finally learn the real history. 

But more than that, the film questions the central tension of this sort of event: how does one put together an event that celebrates radical self-expression while still organizing upwards of 50,000 people so that a temporary city still works for everyone?

Last night our audience (Thursday, Oct 28, 2010) gathered during a Giants game to watch the film. Our group was mostly in standard SF street wear...no fur or blinky lights that I noticed.

Pretty early on it our audience was less generous with comments by Larry and others when they said in the film that organization was key or the event would degenerate into &quot;a mob&quot; (actual quote by Larry). San Francisco has a history of questioning authority and that showed up here in various disapproving gasps when &quot;authority&quot; asserted itself in the film.

I understand the need for spontaneity and expression, after all that&#039;s why I go there and most of my friends are burners. At the same time, having organized events I understand the BM leadership&#039;s view, too. 

The film did a good job showing that a small group of people, the Suicide Club, Cacophony Society and Desert Siteworks, could be responsible because the ethos of the event permeated each member and each member took personal responsibility for the safety and creativity of the event. But once the attendance grew beyond the originating group, the inevitable yahoos who didn&#039;t have the same sense of responsibility would do stupid things. As Larry points out in the film — they have to deal with the threat of the lawsuits. I just have to go there, bring whatever my contribution is that year, explore my inner world for seven days and come back.

On the other hand, the film did make me want to lose the fireworks on Saturday night more than ever. And I could detect the pull toward ritualization in Larry&#039;s speaking, and that&#039;s something to watch out for. Although I personally have no trouble with a bit of it, we humans to tend to bring that too far; note the crazy number of religions we regularly seem to create and then convince ourselves are real instead of all made up.

Still, despite its need to change as it &quot;grows up&quot; I would rather be with the Burning Man community than anywhere else on the planet for those seven days in September.

So this is the mark of a good film. Whichever way your particular opinion falls on the matter you will be thinking about your role in the community, the nature of community itself, the tension between self-expression and the real need to organize 50,000 daily porta-potty visits — all while several layers of government increasingly scrutinize your every move.

I&#039;m very glad I saw the film; I hadn&#039;t realized the void I had not knowing the history of the event. It&#039;s funny, though, now that I know the history I&#039;m a little out of sorts. Something got dislodged by seeing the film, perhaps my own idealization of Burning Man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having heard various stories of the origin of BM it was good to finally learn the real history. </p>
<p>But more than that, the film questions the central tension of this sort of event: how does one put together an event that celebrates radical self-expression while still organizing upwards of 50,000 people so that a temporary city still works for everyone?</p>
<p>Last night our audience (Thursday, Oct 28, 2010) gathered during a Giants game to watch the film. Our group was mostly in standard SF street wear&#8230;no fur or blinky lights that I noticed.</p>
<p>Pretty early on it our audience was less generous with comments by Larry and others when they said in the film that organization was key or the event would degenerate into &#8220;a mob&#8221; (actual quote by Larry). San Francisco has a history of questioning authority and that showed up here in various disapproving gasps when &#8220;authority&#8221; asserted itself in the film.</p>
<p>I understand the need for spontaneity and expression, after all that&#8217;s why I go there and most of my friends are burners. At the same time, having organized events I understand the BM leadership&#8217;s view, too. </p>
<p>The film did a good job showing that a small group of people, the Suicide Club, Cacophony Society and Desert Siteworks, could be responsible because the ethos of the event permeated each member and each member took personal responsibility for the safety and creativity of the event. But once the attendance grew beyond the originating group, the inevitable yahoos who didn&#8217;t have the same sense of responsibility would do stupid things. As Larry points out in the film — they have to deal with the threat of the lawsuits. I just have to go there, bring whatever my contribution is that year, explore my inner world for seven days and come back.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the film did make me want to lose the fireworks on Saturday night more than ever. And I could detect the pull toward ritualization in Larry&#8217;s speaking, and that&#8217;s something to watch out for. Although I personally have no trouble with a bit of it, we humans to tend to bring that too far; note the crazy number of religions we regularly seem to create and then convince ourselves are real instead of all made up.</p>
<p>Still, despite its need to change as it &#8220;grows up&#8221; I would rather be with the Burning Man community than anywhere else on the planet for those seven days in September.</p>
<p>So this is the mark of a good film. Whichever way your particular opinion falls on the matter you will be thinking about your role in the community, the nature of community itself, the tension between self-expression and the real need to organize 50,000 daily porta-potty visits — all while several layers of government increasingly scrutinize your every move.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very glad I saw the film; I hadn&#8217;t realized the void I had not knowing the history of the event. It&#8217;s funny, though, now that I know the history I&#8217;m a little out of sorts. Something got dislodged by seeing the film, perhaps my own idealization of Burning Man?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Lynn</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-3930</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Dust &amp; Illusions is a thoughtful, enlightening, and well done historical film about our Burning Man culture and its colliding aspects.  I truly enjoyed the early footage and the histories of the &quot;Wild West&quot; contribution and the Cacophony Society.  

I have witnessed the collision with Rave culture firsthand and have found it more and more unsettling each year.  Yet, there are thousands that come to Burning Man looking for exactly that.  When it&#039;s all said and done I agree with The Lotus Girls&#039; standpoint - contributing to an Art Project seems to be the best route.  

&quot;You can only go to the same party so many times....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dust &#038; Illusions is a thoughtful, enlightening, and well done historical film about our Burning Man culture and its colliding aspects.  I truly enjoyed the early footage and the histories of the &#8220;Wild West&#8221; contribution and the Cacophony Society.  </p>
<p>I have witnessed the collision with Rave culture firsthand and have found it more and more unsettling each year.  Yet, there are thousands that come to Burning Man looking for exactly that.  When it&#8217;s all said and done I agree with The Lotus Girls&#8217; standpoint &#8211; contributing to an Art Project seems to be the best route.  </p>
<p>&#8220;You can only go to the same party so many times&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Radcliffe</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-3482</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Radcliffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been there early, I can tell you this movie is like old home week to me.The stories you hear are the same one&#039;s that we&#039;ve told around campfires to ourselves. Each one of these guy&#039;s, including Larry, wanted to burn the man early for years but didn&#039;t have the balls. Go, Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been there early, I can tell you this movie is like old home week to me.The stories you hear are the same one&#8217;s that we&#8217;ve told around campfires to ourselves. Each one of these guy&#8217;s, including Larry, wanted to burn the man early for years but didn&#8217;t have the balls. Go, Paul.</p>
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