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		<title>By: Athena</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-1387</link>
		<dc:creator>Athena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly believe this might be the first film to tell the FULL story of Burning Man from its inception to its current status as a subculture.

BRAVO!!! Extremely well done.</description>
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<p>BRAVO!!! Extremely well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-880</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw the film in SF last night and thought it was great!  Really enjoyed learning about early BM and my favorite part was all the early footage.

I thought the criticism was fair but one sided.  I would like to have seen more participants of recent BM&#039;s interviewed.  I think that group was not well represented and might have shown an opposing view to the criticisms.  

Please release the DVD soon - I know of a lot of people who would like to see this firm!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the film in SF last night and thought it was great!  Really enjoyed learning about early BM and my favorite part was all the early footage.</p>
<p>I thought the criticism was fair but one sided.  I would like to have seen more participants of recent BM&#8217;s interviewed.  I think that group was not well represented and might have shown an opposing view to the criticisms.  </p>
<p>Please release the DVD soon &#8211; I know of a lot of people who would like to see this firm!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David Wilson</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-771</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for creating a very comprehensive and fair summary of the Burning Man phenomena from the first burn at the beach to the present. After five trips to the picnic in the desert myself I was surprised by how much I did not know about the pople behind the event, their divergent visions and philosophies, and the evolutionary forces behind the scenes.

The movie was put together masterfully with a good but not overpowering soundtrack and beautiful scenes from past events that for me evoked the spirit at the time they were happening. The interviews were insightful and just detailed enough not to lose my interest. I loved the characters such as Chicken John and Flash especially, but Larry&#039;s personality was always present and bigger than life. The last time I saw such an ego was watching Bill Graham in &quot;Gimme Shelter&quot; many years ago.

I would have liked to see some more attention paid to the current and ongoing issues that have plagued recent Burning Man Festivals such as clogged porta-potties, theft and other crimes, and the incredible clean-up efforts that are needed to pick up after all the participants that have no clue what &quot;Leave no trace&quot; means. I understand, however, that the movie needs to be held to 90 minutes or less and the bad behavior of a few yahoos should not determine the tone for the rest of the movie anyway.

The movie has given me fresh eyes with which to view this years picnic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for creating a very comprehensive and fair summary of the Burning Man phenomena from the first burn at the beach to the present. After five trips to the picnic in the desert myself I was surprised by how much I did not know about the pople behind the event, their divergent visions and philosophies, and the evolutionary forces behind the scenes.</p>
<p>The movie was put together masterfully with a good but not overpowering soundtrack and beautiful scenes from past events that for me evoked the spirit at the time they were happening. The interviews were insightful and just detailed enough not to lose my interest. I loved the characters such as Chicken John and Flash especially, but Larry&#8217;s personality was always present and bigger than life. The last time I saw such an ego was watching Bill Graham in &#8220;Gimme Shelter&#8221; many years ago.</p>
<p>I would have liked to see some more attention paid to the current and ongoing issues that have plagued recent Burning Man Festivals such as clogged porta-potties, theft and other crimes, and the incredible clean-up efforts that are needed to pick up after all the participants that have no clue what &#8220;Leave no trace&#8221; means. I understand, however, that the movie needs to be held to 90 minutes or less and the bad behavior of a few yahoos should not determine the tone for the rest of the movie anyway.</p>
<p>The movie has given me fresh eyes with which to view this years picnic.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier Bonin</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-773</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Bonin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

1/ Delancey St, I should have explained is a non-profit organization that helps homeless/addicts, people who have hit bottom get back on their feet. SO they have very strict rules about what is possible to do in their enclave. Far from bourgeois, they are people who have gone so low, they are trying to protect the place, and one way they do it is with very strict rules. I feel that the bohemian types should really support what the Foundation is doing, it&#039;s important work that works! So I will continue showing the film there to support them.

2/ David Best... would have been another man in a series of quite a few male portraits already in the film. But I didn&#039;t choose him intentionally. He has inspired many people, but after following his crew for a little while, I didn&#039;t see the kind of cohesion, and long term goals that I have found in the Flaming Lotus Girls (FLG). The FLG have built a group of artists, a community, which main purpose is to teach newcomers the art of metal/fire work. Their second goal, through which they achieve the 1st one is to build sculptures. With that in mind, a natural sense of belonging emerges through the group. And I haven&#039;t found that in David&#039;s crew (and here I am calling it David&#039;s crew, the FLG are the Flaming Lotus Girls, period. No leader, no #1 artist,... other reason I have chosen to feature them), even though a sense of belonging transpires, I haven&#039;t felt it to be as strong. This comment doesn&#039;t come from a scientific comparison b/w the 2 groups, rather an emotional response to spending some time with them.

3/ Hard to say what BM is about really. Everyone sort of owns it. It&#039;s not all about the ART. But the approach to the ART is the only aspect that is truly unique to this event. The temple and its spirituality, we know too well, that it is well represented all around the world. The communal experience exists in many places, often not as publicized as BM is. But an event where the participants are left to make this event what they want it to be, very uncommon at this scale. BM to me is unique in this call for creativity... which I too often simply call ART, but it&#039;s not just the sculptures, it&#039;s all the performances, the impromptu little accordeon concerts, the tuna meals, etc... People pull their creativity together and bring it there. That&#039;s what I wanted to celebrate in the film, and BORG2 did what they did, and they made it about the ART, because they were sculptural artists and that&#039;s what they knew best. I wanted to illustrate one point of community upraising and how it was received by the ORG. It wasn&#039;t just about BORG2, it wasn&#039;t to celebrate BORG2, rather to celebrate the community that our need to create builds organically.

4/ That I know... give me a minute and I&#039;ll fix it. Thanks for pointing it out. And thank you for your comment, critique is our life blood... in France :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>1/ Delancey St, I should have explained is a non-profit organization that helps homeless/addicts, people who have hit bottom get back on their feet. SO they have very strict rules about what is possible to do in their enclave. Far from bourgeois, they are people who have gone so low, they are trying to protect the place, and one way they do it is with very strict rules. I feel that the bohemian types should really support what the Foundation is doing, it&#8217;s important work that works! So I will continue showing the film there to support them.</p>
<p>2/ David Best&#8230; would have been another man in a series of quite a few male portraits already in the film. But I didn&#8217;t choose him intentionally. He has inspired many people, but after following his crew for a little while, I didn&#8217;t see the kind of cohesion, and long term goals that I have found in the Flaming Lotus Girls (FLG). The FLG have built a group of artists, a community, which main purpose is to teach newcomers the art of metal/fire work. Their second goal, through which they achieve the 1st one is to build sculptures. With that in mind, a natural sense of belonging emerges through the group. And I haven&#8217;t found that in David&#8217;s crew (and here I am calling it David&#8217;s crew, the FLG are the Flaming Lotus Girls, period. No leader, no #1 artist,&#8230; other reason I have chosen to feature them), even though a sense of belonging transpires, I haven&#8217;t felt it to be as strong. This comment doesn&#8217;t come from a scientific comparison b/w the 2 groups, rather an emotional response to spending some time with them.</p>
<p>3/ Hard to say what BM is about really. Everyone sort of owns it. It&#8217;s not all about the ART. But the approach to the ART is the only aspect that is truly unique to this event. The temple and its spirituality, we know too well, that it is well represented all around the world. The communal experience exists in many places, often not as publicized as BM is. But an event where the participants are left to make this event what they want it to be, very uncommon at this scale. BM to me is unique in this call for creativity&#8230; which I too often simply call ART, but it&#8217;s not just the sculptures, it&#8217;s all the performances, the impromptu little accordeon concerts, the tuna meals, etc&#8230; People pull their creativity together and bring it there. That&#8217;s what I wanted to celebrate in the film, and BORG2 did what they did, and they made it about the ART, because they were sculptural artists and that&#8217;s what they knew best. I wanted to illustrate one point of community upraising and how it was received by the ORG. It wasn&#8217;t just about BORG2, it wasn&#8217;t to celebrate BORG2, rather to celebrate the community that our need to create builds organically.</p>
<p>4/ That I know&#8230; give me a minute and I&#8217;ll fix it. Thanks for pointing it out. And thank you for your comment, critique is our life blood&#8230; in France <img src='http://dustandillusions.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Castaway</title>
		<link>http://dustandillusions.com/blog/write-your-comments-on-the-film/comment-page-1#comment-772</link>
		<dc:creator>Castaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FABULOUS FABULOUS FABULOUS !!  It&#039;s important to me to have a film to really show the =depth= of what is Burning Man, especially for relatives or friends who are averse to going to give them a sense of what I&#039;m talking about, visually, viscerally.  PLEASE make it available for sale someday soon.  The film is coherent and comprehensive and funny - very important.
FOUR critiques:
1 PLEASE do not show this at Delancey Street Theater again.  I thought I was being interrogated by Russian Mafia upon entering.  And, it&#039;s one thing to not be allowed to bring my drink in, but, when I checked it, they could give me no receipt.  They looked at me suspiciously like I was vermin invading their bourgeois enclave of South Beach or whatever that neighborhood is called.  It was =not= a fun place -- not a place that is welcoming to the bohemian types that this very film is about.
2 I would have liked to see David Best as part of the film (did I miss him - was he there?)
3 I would say that your treatment of Larry Harvey was fair and balanced -- ALMOST. You almost, but not quite, achieved &quot;fair and balanced&quot;.  I cringe a little on his behalf -- there were a couple moments where you were making fun of him, a little unnecessarily, it seems to me (worst possibility, you made this film with somewhat a sense of being an outsider, free to air others&#039; dirty laundry?).  Also, this piece does come off a little as Borg-2&#039;s position about Burning Man: it&#039;s all about the Art.  I do believe the art needs a LOT more support by the ORG, but I&#039;m more of an &quot;It&#039;s all about inventing community - let the art follow community&quot; person, so I somewhat disagree with your basic premise. Somewhat.  I am glad you critiqued Larry&#039;s calling the whole thing a &quot;ritual&quot;, though (uggh!).
4  VERY IMPORTANT: please re-edit this film for the following ONE factor:  there is a long segment of BRC (at night?) with rather  quiet-ish, almost meditative soundtrack right toward the very end of the film.  It then cuts to Jim Mason (this is the final clip showing Jim Mason) saying something (this must be in the last 5 minutes of the film, or so).  JIM MASON&#039;s VOICE =blares=: the sudden jump in volume level is =paifully= startling right after a long meditative sequence and this jump in recording level does not serve any apparent purpose.  I am particularly sensitive to this myself, but in this case other people in the theater, I noticed,  were visibly startled as well.  I would mix down the record level at the very beginning of Mason&#039;s quote then bring it right up (or mix up the end of the meditative sequence).  This was the only moment in the film that had any sort of disturbing transitions, though.
AGAIN, hugs all around for your accomplishment !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FABULOUS FABULOUS FABULOUS !!  It&#8217;s important to me to have a film to really show the =depth= of what is Burning Man, especially for relatives or friends who are averse to going to give them a sense of what I&#8217;m talking about, visually, viscerally.  PLEASE make it available for sale someday soon.  The film is coherent and comprehensive and funny &#8211; very important.<br />
FOUR critiques:<br />
1 PLEASE do not show this at Delancey Street Theater again.  I thought I was being interrogated by Russian Mafia upon entering.  And, it&#8217;s one thing to not be allowed to bring my drink in, but, when I checked it, they could give me no receipt.  They looked at me suspiciously like I was vermin invading their bourgeois enclave of South Beach or whatever that neighborhood is called.  It was =not= a fun place &#8212; not a place that is welcoming to the bohemian types that this very film is about.<br />
2 I would have liked to see David Best as part of the film (did I miss him &#8211; was he there?)<br />
3 I would say that your treatment of Larry Harvey was fair and balanced &#8212; ALMOST. You almost, but not quite, achieved &#8220;fair and balanced&#8221;.  I cringe a little on his behalf &#8212; there were a couple moments where you were making fun of him, a little unnecessarily, it seems to me (worst possibility, you made this film with somewhat a sense of being an outsider, free to air others&#8217; dirty laundry?).  Also, this piece does come off a little as Borg-2&#8217;s position about Burning Man: it&#8217;s all about the Art.  I do believe the art needs a LOT more support by the ORG, but I&#8217;m more of an &#8220;It&#8217;s all about inventing community &#8211; let the art follow community&#8221; person, so I somewhat disagree with your basic premise. Somewhat.  I am glad you critiqued Larry&#8217;s calling the whole thing a &#8220;ritual&#8221;, though (uggh!).<br />
4  VERY IMPORTANT: please re-edit this film for the following ONE factor:  there is a long segment of BRC (at night?) with rather  quiet-ish, almost meditative soundtrack right toward the very end of the film.  It then cuts to Jim Mason (this is the final clip showing Jim Mason) saying something (this must be in the last 5 minutes of the film, or so).  JIM MASON&#8217;s VOICE =blares=: the sudden jump in volume level is =paifully= startling right after a long meditative sequence and this jump in recording level does not serve any apparent purpose.  I am particularly sensitive to this myself, but in this case other people in the theater, I noticed,  were visibly startled as well.  I would mix down the record level at the very beginning of Mason&#8217;s quote then bring it right up (or mix up the end of the meditative sequence).  This was the only moment in the film that had any sort of disturbing transitions, though.<br />
AGAIN, hugs all around for your accomplishment !</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than a history: a well-constructed story,  efficiently placed images,  daring statement, but gracefully done without anger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than a history: a well-constructed story,  efficiently placed images,  daring statement, but gracefully done without anger.</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Cass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimson Cass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually found the English teacher&#039;s comments refreshing ... I am glad you included his viewpoint, he was very articulate and funny. Burning Man is such a complex experience - this is an excellent documentary, as it&#039;s not all starry-eyed and uncritical.

I saw it at the Toronto screening; it was a really special week for Burners in the city because the Flaming Lotus Girls had their Angel of the Apocalypse installation all week at a free festival - right in front of city hall! It was great to see all kinds of people getting a little of the BM magic, and to see the playa-inspired flames shoot up in the frosty, January night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually found the English teacher&#8217;s comments refreshing &#8230; I am glad you included his viewpoint, he was very articulate and funny. Burning Man is such a complex experience &#8211; this is an excellent documentary, as it&#8217;s not all starry-eyed and uncritical.</p>
<p>I saw it at the Toronto screening; it was a really special week for Burners in the city because the Flaming Lotus Girls had their Angel of the Apocalypse installation all week at a free festival &#8211; right in front of city hall! It was great to see all kinds of people getting a little of the BM magic, and to see the playa-inspired flames shoot up in the frosty, January night.</p>
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		<title>By: MoHude</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoHude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently attended the screening a tthe World Cafe Live in Philadelphia.

WELL DONE!!! i really really enjoyed the screening! To begin, the World Cafe was a good palce to host it, and definitely did justice to the presentation (and i think everyone liked the food)! But i really, really enjoyed your presentation of the history of Burning Man. I&#039;;ve been researching Burning Man for most of the year, but your film certainly went more in depth into areas I hadn&#039;t realized had been so influential (such as the Cacophony Society- I&#039;d known it was involved, but there seemed to be more of a merger that happened, which i wasn&#039;t aware of). Also, I liked the focus on some of the more fundemental contributors and why they did/didn&#039;t stay with Burning Man over it&#039;s physical and ideological transformation. I recently just got done reading AfterBurn: reflections on Burning Man, by Lee Gilmore and Mark Van Proyen. I appreciated your film a lot because it was very much like the book, except i thought yours was more focused and in depth, and therefore much more educational. And interesting! I couldn&#039;t believe that you got all that film (or even that it existed!). I feel like no one really films anything, anymore, so that was a really cool window to be able to look back through. Oh! I also like that the film, kinda, was a subtle roast of Larry Harvey, but that it didn&#039;t just criticize- it just exposed that this man, kinda of eccentric and spontatneous and flawed, didn;t always do it right, but was the one who kept it going, for better or for worse, for 20 years, &quot;longer than the hippie, beatnik, and a few other movements combined&quot;. In short, i thought this was a really good insight for people not only in the culture, but ones just getting started. Thanks and great job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently attended the screening a tthe World Cafe Live in Philadelphia.</p>
<p>WELL DONE!!! i really really enjoyed the screening! To begin, the World Cafe was a good palce to host it, and definitely did justice to the presentation (and i think everyone liked the food)! But i really, really enjoyed your presentation of the history of Burning Man. I&#8217;;ve been researching Burning Man for most of the year, but your film certainly went more in depth into areas I hadn&#8217;t realized had been so influential (such as the Cacophony Society- I&#8217;d known it was involved, but there seemed to be more of a merger that happened, which i wasn&#8217;t aware of). Also, I liked the focus on some of the more fundemental contributors and why they did/didn&#8217;t stay with Burning Man over it&#8217;s physical and ideological transformation. I recently just got done reading AfterBurn: reflections on Burning Man, by Lee Gilmore and Mark Van Proyen. I appreciated your film a lot because it was very much like the book, except i thought yours was more focused and in depth, and therefore much more educational. And interesting! I couldn&#8217;t believe that you got all that film (or even that it existed!). I feel like no one really films anything, anymore, so that was a really cool window to be able to look back through. Oh! I also like that the film, kinda, was a subtle roast of Larry Harvey, but that it didn&#8217;t just criticize- it just exposed that this man, kinda of eccentric and spontatneous and flawed, didn;t always do it right, but was the one who kept it going, for better or for worse, for 20 years, &#8220;longer than the hippie, beatnik, and a few other movements combined&#8221;. In short, i thought this was a really good insight for people not only in the culture, but ones just getting started. Thanks and great job!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Slee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Slee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended the screening in San Francisco last night and really enjoyed the film. Given how complex and hard to capture Burning Man is, I am impressed with the way this documentary presents its criticism. It is both tactful and nuanced.

The film gives a lot of insight into Burning Man&#039;s history and founding members as well as the filmmaker&#039;s own perspective, but it manages to do so without becoming prescriptive about what Burning Man means, how it should be run, or what it should become in the future. It effectively connects questions about Burning Man to larger questions about the roles of creativity and community in human society at large.

Rather than attempting to answer these questions directly, the film ultimately turns them right back on its audience, which I thought was a fitting ending -- very in line with Burning Man&#039;s ideal of us all being participants rather than observers.

Thanks for making the film, very well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended the screening in San Francisco last night and really enjoyed the film. Given how complex and hard to capture Burning Man is, I am impressed with the way this documentary presents its criticism. It is both tactful and nuanced.</p>
<p>The film gives a lot of insight into Burning Man&#8217;s history and founding members as well as the filmmaker&#8217;s own perspective, but it manages to do so without becoming prescriptive about what Burning Man means, how it should be run, or what it should become in the future. It effectively connects questions about Burning Man to larger questions about the roles of creativity and community in human society at large.</p>
<p>Rather than attempting to answer these questions directly, the film ultimately turns them right back on its audience, which I thought was a fitting ending &#8212; very in line with Burning Man&#8217;s ideal of us all being participants rather than observers.</p>
<p>Thanks for making the film, very well done.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cigarette Gnome</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Cigarette Gnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good documentary. I was glad to see some balanced criticism, even though I fully support Burning Man. I really enjoyed some of the early clips of the Cacaphony Society and the Suicide Club. Good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good documentary. I was glad to see some balanced criticism, even though I fully support Burning Man. I really enjoyed some of the early clips of the Cacaphony Society and the Suicide Club. Good job!</p>
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